This has all been a great and creative thought process thus far, Ford! :) I just wanted to go "on record" and state that here! I've been reading these posts as you - and others - have made them, and I definitely appreciate the thought processes that have gone into these RL -> Azeroth adaptations! :)
As much of a literary, film, music and pop culture buff as I am, the ignition in my mind just isn't kicking over quite yet for any suggestions that I could make. :( It's not for lack of trying though! xD If I ever do manage to come up with something more substantial, I'll post it for your (and everyone else's, of course) perusal and review!
Just wanted to offer my gratitude and praise, and to encourage everyone involved in this thought collaboration to keep up the good work! :D
I still very much look forward to the day...
Stormwind University Presents...
A Fangleford Thinthistle Production...
"__Insert Show Title HERE__"
~^~ Amara ~^~
So, before we get too heavily into the canon/not-canon story about Wilhelm Spearshake, I'm going to try skirting the line of spoilers for Legion:
There is a Bill Spearshaker to be an NPC, with his own questline. Obviously it's still early stages of game development, so it may or may not actually happen, I just don't want us to develop this great history and have Blizz throw a monkey wrench into it.
And that's all I shall say on that.
Aside from that, Thespis checks out - I just feel like he should be a little more ancient than just 100 years before the Dark Portal. According to the In-Game book "Arathor and the Troll Wars," the Arathi were a tribe of humans, who then brought together the other tribes to fight against the trolls, and united under one banner they entered a golden age. (sounds familiar) If WoWWiki is to be considered primarily true, then those events occurred 2,800 years ago. So...Thespis could be significantly older than 130 years.
You know, I had thought of the name Bill Spearshaker myself, and thank you for the update. I will seek out that info as I'm not a bugaboo about spoilers. Awesome.
Thespis- absolutely, that was what I was intending, several thousand years agoe was when that kingdom began to flourish, vaguely matching our own RL timeline.
After mulling this over some more, AND further researching Bill Spearshaker, I've got some new ideas and modified some old ones. I think the next phase is to move this to an event!
Maybe not even an ICly event, but try and work out a date & time where we can all chat in the same channel or something. This is a long term project, and there are a couple people who I really want to weigh in on this who have been distracted/unavailable, etc.
I'll try and post some of those thoughts sooner than later, but I just wanted to put the idea of a meet up out into the universe. Thanks!
TENTATIVE! April 15th, 6pm Server HORDE SIDE, outside RageFire Cavern, so that we may group up and go inside (min lvl 10, you wont aggro the first group of mobs unless you go stroll up to them, I've tested it on my lvl 10 prot war in Def stance to make sure, max aggro was up) and there is plenty of room for a good number of people to chat without everyone standing on top of each other.
An OOCly chat to flesh out some of what we've discussed and get some one on one with a few people who've had issue with posting on the Stormwind U forum.
This date and time MIGHT change, but I'm going to try to stick to it. When you log on to Horde side Wyrmrest Accord, you're going to want Meecham, my Horde Side Storyteller, send him a tell, He'll be parked outside the instance. LETS CHAT RIDICULOUSLY NERDY THINGS!
I hope after this pow wow to finalize a bit and post a summary thesis so us thespian wowers can have something to reference before summer, and def before Legion!
Hope to See you there!
Some things to consider for this eve’s discussion, chat soon!
Who Started theatre as we know it (characters, lines, performance space)?
Timeline wise? Where does that fit in?
The guild. (Karazhan)
ETC? (or are they just thier own “thing”)
LEGION SPOILER:! (technically, but not really, though)
Apparently, dude is in Ironforge, but is a steamy romance novel author, nothing to do specifically with theatre, also the “STAR” of most of the novels is an NPC as well, so I suppose they know each other, or at least Bill knows of Marcus in detail, not entirely relevant if you ask me.
I still think a “bard” character can be headcanon, who wrote most of the Shakespeare library.
Shout out to Lestuu/Dey for joining myself and Atos of THE Tirisfal Theatre Troupe for an IN DEPTH discussion. Great strides were made.
Below is a rough outline of what we agreed upon with some embellishment by me. IF there is no further discussion by the end of the month I will be able to finalize a more coherent and, hopefully, entertaining paper on the subject.
Note: This is a focus on "Eastern Kingdoms" theatre and it's roots. If you wish to engage in a discussion about Trolls, Orcs, Dreanei, Tauren, Pandaren, or OTHER, please feel free to start one and let me know, I am well aware there is VERY RICH soil to till there from a variety of traditions.
Thesp’iel Highchorus, first to speak lines as a character. The progenitor of “Eastern” Theatre. Is “The Ghost” of Theatre
Pre-dates The Sundering
(( OOC refrence: http://www.wowhead.com/sound=26026/vo-woe-azshara-spell-03
The queen mentions puppets. Puppetry IS a form of theatre that dates back to the greeks, like Thespis himself.
Also, more proof the pre-sundering elves are the Greeks:
night elf artifacts that tell the fateful story of Pyramond and Theleste. ))
Aries’totael Fargaze, well known, Elven philosopher, composed The Poetics,
which detail much about performance theory and is still used today.
1 sundering and 1 exile later, the High Elves bring magic to the other mortal races, the magic of theatre!
Some time after the 7 Kingdoms formed, a batch of works became popular all around Azeroth. They are attributed to the same author, though much debate abounds whether or not this is true. They are referred to as works by “The Bard” and many claim their race produced the author. The most commonly accepted author is a human by the name Wilhem Lancerattle.
“Romulo & Julianne”
The Dwarvish Play “MacBeth”
There were theatre guilds across the continent during those hey days of the mortal races. Everything prospered as the dwarves had settled into their factions, gnomeregan had not yet fallen, there were indeed 7 kingdoms, the High elves and humans traded goods, culture and magic. The dark things stirred behind the scenes.
There are actors ghost’s reported in Karazhan wearing attire that evokes Orcs. Was this after or before the Opening of the portal, or was Medhiv using this as positive propaganda to ease humans into their new overlords? Mysteries abound in that tower.
The portal opens, the three wars stimey all but military research across the Eastern Continent.
The Humans and High Elves are decimated, turned into entirely new incarnations in many cases. Gnomeregan falls, and the dwarves spread themselves in attempting to assist everyone while “finding themselves” and the height of their performance art is now drinking songs and battle hymns, nothing wrong with that.
Today we continue to battle many enemies, the most relevant to this, the idea that performance is inessential, and so we strive to rebuild, and champion the theatrical arts!
(( Much as been repeated, but just for reference . . . .
The TL;DR & OOC version of my research/outline. ))